Visibility and what to do to survive

[jonnyfurious]

As many of our brothers and sisters found out the hard way, the visibility range has increased and the threshold for hitting the terminal has been lowered. It is back to the one and done threshold, which means if anyone gets in your vis range while you are attacking with a Lightsaber or using a Force Power you hit the terms right away. You no longer have the option to unequip and let the vis cool down without hitting the term.

This is the new (old) normal that we have to exist in so there is no point in getting upset right now or debating it here. This post is about what you can do to survive.

First, If you can see a player or NPC on your minimap, they are probably too close. Send Talmoc or Commodore a mail in game if you would like more exact information.

Second, and probably the biggest pain is the desync/invisibility issue that causes players and NPCs to not appear on your screen. We have all seen a riderless bike fly by or had someone tell us they were right next to us and we couldn't see them. It is why every buffer has a line in their spam that tells you to relog if you don't get a buff. This is what likely causes most frustration when you hit the terms after being exceptionally careful (despite what the trolls may tell you). Our only way to fight this is to relog often, but even that isn't a sure fix. From what I have seen so far today this issue is still present after the patch.

Third, no public group or city is safe. Create your own town and your own group. This is a good time to invoke a few like-minded trusted guildies that you have played with for a long time. Just remember whatever you set up should be moved as soon as it is discovered so don't fall in love with one spot. This also isn't the time to make new friends. The nearly all BHs play Jedi. They join random guilds, see who's coming and going at the village and share a ton of information. Be careful who you talk to and what information you share here, in your guild, or in General Chat.

Last, don't be a jerk. There is no better way to make people go out of their way to hunt you then to be a jerk. If you get killed it is part of the game. If you get termed during your grind, you either hide until the vis cools off and hope no one held your mission or you let your ticket get punched and move on.

Best wishes.

[Dirge]

Good advice here jonnyfurious, however, it contains a bit of misinformation. It is true that the visibility range has returned to the Awakening settings that were lost in the last major update, but we have made no modification to the threshold. If it seems this way, it may be due to a bug fix put in by the swgemu team. There was an issue with certain actions not generating visibility that should have. Now they do. As with everything we will monitor to see if any adjustments need to be made but anyone grinding jedi today should pay very carful attention to who/what is around them.

[Deltawarrior]

Any idea how long it takes for it to go away? Thanks for the post

[jonnyfurious]

Before the patch, I have killed a few Mokks and had it cool off in a couple days. I have massacred several hundred faction NPCs and it took about 3 weeks.

I have no idea if that has changed since the patch. If you are grinding, the best advice is to try and stay off the terms until you are full temp.

[tmyers1065]

you all may need to tweek things just a little bit...if it takes 2-3 hours to work off XP Debt, but 20-30 min to get termed...it becomes almost impossible to progress...

[kithsyn]

Yes, it has definitely changed in sensitivity as it probably should have (As a BH I know how frustrating it is not to have many Jedi to hunt). But the pendulum has swung to the other end of the spectrum (I wasn't exposed to any NPC or player but got termed recently). Maybe this was an exception to the rule. I'd like to go over on TC and do some testing in the next few weeks if anyone would like to join.

[lassic]

Let me know and I can help with that. Hit me up and we can schedule a time.

[tmyers1065]

We do need to test it out some....

[Cynar]

Jedi is supposed to be challenging. If you can work debt off in two or three hours count that as lucky. It’s pretty simple, be cautious and you won’t end up on the boards. Most important of all don’t whine because it’s hard. It’s meant to be difficult to progress. Star Wars the Old Republic lets you play Jedi without being hunted.

[trvandrew]

Lol i got two boxes in my grind somehow got termed i am very careful.Im glad i learned early that losing to bh early is unrecoverable and jedi is not for me, jedi out.

[davej30]

You guys have all gotten soft with the last publish with grinding out a jedi being handed to you on a plate.
If you are super paranoid and ultra careful you shouldn't hit the terms no more then 2-3 times during your grind.
In some cases ive had it pointed out to me that a couple of jedi managed not to term at all pre-patch 8 (now back to normal as of patch 9) conditions.100s of jedi have completed this task before this current soft generation of jedi,you all just need to focus on what your doing,no more idle saber waving!

[Cynar]

You guys have all gotten soft with the last publish with grinding out a jedi being handed to you on a plate.
If you are super paranoid and ultra careful you shouldn't hit the terms no more then 2-3 times during your grind.
In some cases ive had it pointed out to me that a couple of jedi managed not to term at all pre-patch 8 (now back to normal as of patch 9) conditions.100s of jedi have completed this task before this current soft generation of jedi,you all just need to focus on what your doing,no more idle saber waving!

/double thumbs up

Visability has been broken for the last year in a major way. That’s fixed now. Staff will not divulge what does & doesn’t give you visability, you gotta figure out some things on your own. Don’t assume because it worked one way on one server of another that it works the same way on Awakening.

And for god sakes if you test something don’t make the mistake of posting what gives you visability, It will be removed. The people playing Jedi need to learn how to level smart and how to defend themselves in every situation. Otherwise once hitting the FRS they’ll just struggle again.

Lol i got two boxes in my grind somehow got termed i am very careful.Im glad i learned early that losing to bh early is unrecoverable and jedi is not for me, jedi out.

/pats on head

Dude, you did something very obvious if you got on the boards twice that fast. Hint: always examine every surrounding, in every single action you take all the time. Jedi isn’t for everyone. It’s a lot like bodybuilding. You have to eat the right diet, be dedicated and patient. You don’t drink a couple of protein shake and boom you got muscles. Bad comparison i know, but the jist is hard work, smart planning, patience, they really do pay off in the end.

I hope you change your mind, jump back in there, and figure it out. Good luck!

[lassic]

All I wanted to say was, "awww.... kitten". I can tell you that you can do this and maintain anonymity. Been grinding out this jedi since July last year, when I unlocked. Yesterday was the first time I had been termed and been killed. It takes just being careful, dropping missions that wind up too close, doing a circuit around your mission to check spawns, etc.... there are ways. Just use your head, and don't think, RAWR JEBI POWAH! That shit doesn't work here.

[Celt]

Last, don't be a jerk. There is no better way to make people go out of their way to hunt you then to be a jerk. If you get killed it is part of the game.

This guy gets it.

A highly motivated bounty hunter might be an issue. In this current target rich environment it may behoove you to not stand out.