NGE/easy

[Faceoff]

I suggest that our community cut out the bullshit snide *this isn't the nge*, *easy mode for kids* comments. Its demeaning to some especially new characters that are making legitimate suggestions (or what they feel is legitimate) or are unaware of where previous comments have gone. This is the type of bullying and lack of concern for others that is a reason some aren't playing on the "other server". It would be a shame to lose some of those players over the inability for people to communicate on a respectable level. Thanks!

[QuorTek]

I hear you, and some of those 'easy' suggestions is not even going NGE'ish but making perfect sense as well, eg. would anyone be opposed to be having advanced search functions on the bazar and more filters for eg. different kinds of metals and the likes lol.

Alot of the things is, people get this NGE fear when something is suggested, but they forget that those things probably would make sense for a better gameplay that would work fine just along anything else in a pre-CU enviroment.

Edit:
Also people FORGET that pre-CU was broken as hell as well, some of the implementations that was done over time made perfect sense, but going all onesided moronic this is pre-CU... this is pre-CU garbage is just what sums up the trash on this server, especially when the things regard a better pre-CU gameplay that first was introduced in the CU/NGE (which is the funny thing really lol)

[Lyris]

People are always going to talk smack. It's your call if you are going to be offended by it or not

[jwyork]

I suggest that our community cut out the bullshit snide *this isn't the nge*, *easy mode for kids* comments. Its demeaning to some especially new characters that are making legitimate suggestions (or what they feel is legitimate) or are unaware of where previous comments have gone. This is the type of bullying and lack of concern for others that is a reason some aren't playing on the "other server". It would be a shame to lose some of those players over the inability for people to communicate on a respectable level. Thanks!

I agree in part. But some of the things i see being asked for are very NGE. Those are the individuals who get pounced on. Such as making all classes equal etc. This game was never designed for that, and that is what people loved about it. What I don't want to see is the constant complainers who got the game changed to begin with the find their way here. I am seeing A LOT of that type of person lately and I wish they'd just go away.

Making changes to the bazaar.... I've heard it was coming, as well as some other things. As long as the changes incorporated are not to do with combat mechanics or "adjusting" class builds, and more cosmetic or convenience or added loot like houses or armor/weapon schematics I'm ok with that.

I do not want to see looted weapons that are better than weaponsmiths can make, etc etc. I do not ever want to see an anti decay kit appear in this game ... EVER EVER. It killed every aspect of the economy possible, except maybe chef and architect or Droid Engineer.

[Anomaly]

people are this way, because its these kinds of suggestions that lead down the path to the DESTRUCTION of this game.

now that is my personal opinion, but as this is a specifically PRE-CU server, your going to find that
that opinion is held by the vast majority of the population here. WE DONT WANT EASY MODE.

There are many options for servers. of all different builds.

I personally, and im sure many others, get very upset when people come to this challenging PRE-CU server,
and try and push it away from what it is.

You have a right to your voice and opinion, but dont expect the rest of us not to voice ours in making sure
pre-cu doesnt get fucked over a second time.

[Faceoff]

So basically ya'll aren't getting the point of this. First off, i'm not offended Lyris, nor will i be. With that said, what is the point in berating a person for what they have to say. And Jdub, none of these people caused the game to be changed. WoW caused this game to be changed. It took the subscriber base away in droves and a decision was made to change formats. That isn't on these people. For the ones that argue this isn't wow or the NGE, its meant to be hard. The only part of this game that is harder than something in wow is probably crafting, which isn't as much hard as it is intricate. Narrow sighted views and bullying personalities (VLADA big dick mentality) is crushing that community more than this being a non-wipe server imo. People's shitty attitudes are a major detractor to someone new to anything. If you don't like the suggestions, don't take it, but there is no reason to belittle new members to the community to give them a bad impression of all of us.

Oh and btw, some people never played during specific, so they don't know the difference.

[Lyris]

First off, i'm not offended Lyris, nor will i be.

Cool. The strong language suggests otherwise but way to be. Remember, others are allowed to express their opinion just like you, even if you think it's a shit opinion. Someone saying your suggestion is too easymode or saying this isn't NGE is pretty legit even if you don't like that opinion or how they say it to you.

[Faceoff]

Actually *this isn't NGE* isn't a coherent point about 75% of the times that it is used. And pardon me for the language, 17 year Sailor, it just words to me lol. I'm just trying to be helpful with this, not trying to blow up anyones skirts. Just saying a helpful, friendly environment is much more welcome than a harsh, combative one.

[Lyris]

Just saying a helpful, friendly environment is much more welcome than a harsh, combative one.

Yeah I agree.



The server and community are pretty damn helpful and friendly in general. One mans humor is another mans insult tho.

[QuorTek]

Pre-CU was easy mode too lol, no idea which hole some of you people just got out of... so was CU.... 'WoW' Mode came with the NGE...

But people forget... also who claim this or that pre-cu to be perfect... some of you guys left right after the hologrind, some of you may only have played the game 4-5 months from launch and some only got a couple of months of pre-cu with the village grind.

Goal is to put it direct pre-CU mode from when it went from pre-cu to cu in a day and take from the past which was good to add in and then the future, but hello what after that? should keep on running the improvement/content plan for the game that was there but keep it in pre-CU mode... people left DUE to the gameplay change in the CU and NGE most of all, not because of the actual nice features added.

An Example:
1 year vet. reward = Antidecay kit that did you could put one of your priceless items into Anti-Decay state, just only allow one reward per account if the case, either way some few people want to ADK everything and buys others ADK's for millions, but that wont ruin business at all not even the crafting concept lol, it just meant a handfull of rich people didn't have to worry about renewing their items at all unless they found better materials, some funny things... economy was thrieving with no issues at all and only a few items would really be ADK worthy whenever it get to it (eg. my full set mandalorian armor it is 1 ADK per piece which meant I had to acquire X amount from people who didn't care).

But all these doomdays people around lol

[BigQEd]

For the record and my stance...

NGE ruined SWG. NGE however did have some cool elements (additional houses, weapons etc etc... and we will look to include many of those features in the future for a Pre-CU+ experience), but it in my opinion, it completely ruined and "dumbed down" the combat/class system. NGE combat was considerably easier than SWG Pre-CU and I believe that is what people refer to as easy-mode when speaking of NGE.

[QuorTek]

But Ed, people react very negative to some of those elements thinking it IS what ruined the NGE lol, we all play pre-CU because we like the combat system of it.... should see the reaction on my harvester suggestion in the other thread lol, especially since it would not break anything but refereing to one of those actual usefull and cool additions the game they did occur.

[Anomaly]

I am blown away that ANYONE could not see how bad ADK's are for a game like this.

straight up blown away.

[AhabsFury]

I suggest that our community cut out the bullshit snide *this isn't the nge*, *easy mode for kids* comments. Its demeaning to some especially new characters that are making legitimate suggestions (or what they feel is legitimate) or are unaware of where previous comments have gone. This is the type of bullying and lack of concern for others that is a reason some aren't playing on the "other server". It would be a shame to lose some of those players over the inability for people to communicate on a respectable level. Thanks!

Sorry buddy this IS NOT the NGE, no easy mode for the kiddies here. Have fun on Awakening though!

[Cynar]

This isn't NGE, this is a slightly harder emulated version on Pre-CU. Keep the thread calm or I will yet again close another. Also just as a note, this is a suggestion thread for feature implementation. Not on community or individuals behavior. It is ok to suggest changes to the game. As I stated in the sticky for suggestions don't get upset if we or other people don't agree with you.

There will be no Anti-decay kit. I suggest people get over it.

[Faceoff]

My bad on the misplacement on the topic. AhabsFury..i see what you did there, well played Didn't mean tick anyone off, just wanna see people not jump down people throats about there ideas. Some are good and some are bad for any number of reasons. Explanation of the good or bad reasons leaves a better taste in people's mouths in my opinion.. I'll drop it from here. And will continue enjoying playing the game!

[Shoju]

But Ed, people react very negative to some of those elements thinking it IS what ruined the NGE lol, we all play pre-CU because we like the combat system of it.... should see the reaction on my harvester suggestion in the other thread lol, especially since it would not break anything but refereing to one of those actual usefull and cool additions the game they did occur.

I responded the the thread you're referring to and I agree there were some very negative responses to your suggestions. My specific response and the conversation that followed had absolutely nothing to do with "NGE-ing" the game. This is not meant to be insulting, but I don't think you fully grasp the ramifications of your suggestion. Would it make it easier for you to place heavy harvesters? Yes. Would it make the game easier for you? Yes. Would it improve the server as a whole? The majority agree, resounding no.

Perhaps others were not as diplomatic about it, but not every suggestion is a good one. I listened to your argument and I disagree with you.

[BigQEd]

There will be no Anti-decay kit. I suggest people get over it.

[Wodaz]

There will be no Anti-decay kit. I suggest people get over it.

Agreed!! The only and I say only lightly, is that these were good for sabers because only a jedi could craft them and once you had a perfect saber it was nice to keep it, but it was economy breaking for a lot of other crafting professions. Saying that, recreating a great saber wasn't hard to do either.

[ShadowOrdo]

For the record and my stance...

NGE ruined SWG. NGE however did have some cool elements (additional houses, weapons etc etc... and we will look to include many of those features in the future for a Pre-CU+ experience), but it in my opinion, it completely ruined and "dumbed down" the combat/class system. NGE combat was considerably easier than SWG Pre-CU and I believe that is what people refer to as easy-mode when speaking of NGE.

If I may ask (I cannot find this info anywhere I look), what is SWG Awakening position on the NGE decorating system improvements, Expansion planets such as Kashyyyk / Mustafar, and the GCW patch that allowed the factions to compete over grid zones and static bases? I recall those three features probably being the most enjoyable throughout my time in NGE... The GCW feature created a PVP incentive i never seen in another MMO... it was simply huge, competitive (in a healthy way), and damn enjoyable.

*had to edit post to correct mistype*