Ancker's Jedi Academy (Jedi Guides + Tips & Tricks) *WIP*

[Lokro]

Great post as always , Thanks for sharing it. I did search high and low for your unlock blog and even tried to get it via the outside forums but couldn't find it , Either way this is very good and nice post. Thanks again.

[Ancker]

Thanks everyone for asking/answering questions about our abilities etc.
Will try to update the post when I get time, currently a bit busy real life.

Great post as always , Thanks for sharing it. I did search high and low for your unlock blog and even tried to get it via the outside forums but couldn't find it , Either way this is very good and nice post. Thanks again.

Thanks very much Lokro! Sorry to hear you could not find my Unlock Journey, I have added all my big posts to my signature.

For easy access: http://swgawakening.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=1962

[Ancker]

Updated the Main Post:
Added: Master Powers under Jedi Disciplines and added a new section: "Jedi Ability Technical Information" currently in BETA mode.

Hopefully I get the "go-Ahead" from the developers to add details I discover.

[StepoKedur]

Updated the Main Post:
"Jedi Ability Technical Information" currently in BETA mode.

I like it

[CURTISEBEAR]

Great post, and thank you for taking the time to write it. Will there be subjective analysis of templates included eventually? Specifically branches/trees strong for JvJ and JvBH. I've read through guides on templates before but Awakening seems to have far different balancing in terms of JvBH, and with tweaks to powers. I'm interested to know if the buffs to BH essentially force Jedi into defense stacking templates or is MLS or xxx4 LS enough. Also, how relevant is lightning accuracy?

[Ancker]

Great post, and thank you for taking the time to write it. Will there be subjective analysis of templates included eventually? Specifically branches/trees strong for JvJ and JvBH. I've read through guides on templates before but Awakening seems to have far different balancing in terms of JvBH, and with tweaks to powers. I'm interested to know if the buffs to BH essentially force Jedi into defense stacking templates or is MLS or xxx4 LS enough. Also, how relevant is lightning accuracy?

Thanks CurtiseBear!

A bit limited by real life (time wise), so the post updating is going a bit slow.

Would definitely love to make an analysis of templates, will do that when we get the next big Jedi Overhaul Patch. (still too many templates struggling at this time)

I know the Devs are working or planning an upcoming Jedi patch, that hopefully changes how things are now.

Currently the whole JvBH is heavy favored towards the BH with semi good LCC. FastBlast is Jedi killer at the moment.
Without MLS, Ancker get hit for around 2.5k dmg (split 1.2k health/action) constantly per sec, can be lowered a little with food buffs.
I can be killed by a BH, before the game flags him as Red, meaning I can't use (Intimidate) my only defense as powers.

As of forcing into defensive templates, I can say from experience, without MLS you have very little chance to fight off a HighEnd LLC/FastBlast combo.
MLS is definitely needed at this point to survive and fight.
Will try not to go to much into current templates, since they are working on improvements.

All other combat professions have a hard time facing a Jedi, (with few exepctions.) because of Jedi high block chance/Melee Toughness.
M. BH with Fast Blast counters the high Saber Block, meaning with only LS xxx4, you block very rarely against a FB-BH.

JVJ is currently a stalemate or extremely long fights (depending on template).
Many have good suggestions and ideas to fix it. I will wait until the Jedi Patch arrives to comment with my suggestions.

Thanks once again for the warm words means a ton.

[caiuscassius]

Hi Ancker -- just so I can dimensionalize what you're saying above, what spec are you exactly? Do you not have Force Armor 2 or MLS?

Thanks!

[Ancker]

Hi Ancker -- just so I can dimensionalize what you're saying above, what spec are you exactly? Do you not have Force Armor 2 or MLS?

Thanks!

Hey Caiucassius.

Sure, Ancker is MPowers, MEnhancment and Healer 4xx4.

The current issue with Force Armor 2 and Powers is: they are massive Force drainers, we don't have enough Force to both be Offensive and Defensive.

Lightning Single 2 Cost 150 Force, combined with Healing, F. Intimidate, F. Weakening we are already draining force at a high rate.
When we then add Force Armor 2 ontop of that, we only have few sec/min before become Force Depleated.
A BH with a good LLC can drain my Force bar within seconds with Force Armor 2 on.

Again, I have faith the Devs will give Powers some much needed love in the Force/Defensive department.

[CURTISEBEAR]

Would definitely love to make an analysis of templates, will do that when we get the next big Jedi Overhaul Patch. (still too many templates struggling at this time)

I know the Devs are working or planning an upcoming Jedi patch, that hopefully changes how things are now.

Is this really in the works? Links/confirmation would be appreciated . Thanks for the response ancker

[Ancker]

Is this really in the works? Links/confirmation would be appreciated . Thanks for the response ancker

Nothing official. Have spoken with the Devs, and they are definitely aware of the current issues and said a more Jedi focused Patch will be worked on in the future. (Not the current Patch.)

Please keep in mind they haven't released a timeframe for the Jedi update (AFAIK), All I can say is, Jedi will get some love in the future

[Darkspecialist]

how about what should your template be prior to unlocking? lets say that the 7th step is time played and you have all badges, all professions, followed every quest, killed everything and pvp'd to the end.

for the sake of arguement
tomorrow you unlock

what should your pre jedi template be? Doc? Ranged defense? Something that makes it easier to run?

[Markfly32]

how about what should your template be prior to unlocking? lets say that the 7th step is time played and you have all badges, all professions, followed every quest, killed everything and pvp'd to the end.

for the sake of arguement
tomorrow you unlock

what should your pre jedi template be? Doc? Ranged defense? Something that makes it easier to run?

I was a def stacker when I unlocked and it worked great for me. If a bh comes after you early on in your grind switch back to your armour and take out a power hammer and you will rock them as bh are weak in regular pvp. You are most vulnerable combat wise when you are mid Jedi temp as you aren't quite full Jedi and lost a lot of your regular combat points.

[Celt]

bh are weak in regular pvp.

Not if you read the pvp forums.

[Ancker]

what should your pre jedi template be? Doc? Ranged defense? Something that makes it easier to run?

For pure PVE grind, I would strongly suggest grinding a Melee Template before beginning the Jedi grind. (High Melee Defense and Defense Vs ...)
Having high Melee Defense combined with Pikatta Pie (Dodge Food), makes it very hard for PVE to hit you.

I personally went for:
Master TKM (High Melee/Ranged Defense + Meditate to clear wounds), Medic 4x4x (Able to use Healing quickly and High Stims)

When you get to a point where you have to drop Boxes from non-Jedi for Jedi, my suggestion would be to keep:
Melee Defense > Medic > Meditate > Other.

The biggest issue with Jedi is they don't have mechanics such as: Counterattack, Dodge and Melee Defense. (except Defender Discipline)
Jedi will take a lot of damage and can only reduce the total amount with Toughness and not avoid it completely.

If you do get hit by a BH, Armor up and having Brawler Intimidate on them should be enough to survive, Clara has been able to outrun a BH, but if the BH has a backup Stun weapon you might be out of luck.

Hope that helps a little

[Lokro]

Thanks very much Lokro! Sorry to hear you could not find my Unlock Journey, I have added all my big posts to my signature.
For easy access: http://swgawakening.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=1962

Thanks Anker, I meant before when they were not as clear , Looking forward to your further videos posted on YT, especially if there are any related to PvP and tactics . Thanks.

[Darkspecialist]

if im jedi can i take my own mission? if not what is your source in writing so i can read it myself

[Royan]

You cannot based upon experience. Very little about the Jedi/BH system is documented so you won't find any official text about it

General rules:
1. You cannot view/take your own Jedi's mission
2. You cannot view/take the missions of Jedi within the same guild as the BH
3. It's considered an exploit to explicitly have other people hold your mission so that it no longer shows up for other parties

[Celt]

if im jedi can i take my own mission? if not what is your source in writing so i can read it myself

No you cannot take a mission for any character that your BH shares and account with, nor can you see any mission on a character you are guilded with.

source: I am Celt.

[Celt]

3. It's considered an exploit to explicitly have other people hold your mission so that it no longer shows up for other parties

As an aside I don't even know if this is possible. We have had 8 people on the same mission before and the old system of diminishing returns when pulling a mission doesnt seem to be in effect here. I am not sure that having anyone hold your mission accomplishes anything. There doesnt seem to be a mission cap like on live.

[tnick]

I actually think I have heard that if someone holds onto the mission for long enough, it expires and they have to pick it up again. I think Bobobo said something like this when trying to sit on someone's mission that was house sitting for weeks.