Loot tables?

[Daihok]

I know i might catch alot of flack for this post but im just wondering why it is you can go hunt Nightsisters or similar and be there for couples hours and not get any good loots. Yet you can just go Bounty Hunter and get epic loots almost every kill. I have a bounty hunter and yea its nice but what insentive does it give to explore other areas of the game if you can just go bounty hunter and get epic lewt almost every kill not to mention big payouts with slicing? Why not make loot tables a little more even for other areas of the game? Sorry just trying to make sense of it.

[Cynar]

Loot tables are frequently adjusted and modified for the entire game. Loot tables are slightly different for Bounty Hunters. This isn't usually a group activity and these mobs are not static, they are system generated based upon the mission request.

It also makes the risk vs reward for BH's a little more worth it for those that play the class. I don't like to use the word gimped, but lets face it Bounty Hunters have to use a ton of their skill points for a lot of garbage. While they are a combat class, they are a combat class designed to do one thing, hunt a high-end mark (npc or player).

It makes their class hard for pvp in comparison for someone who is tk/fencer/pistols and don't forget Jedi. They don't have the same defenses or damage output.While they are capable of joining said groups or going out after a high-end mob with just them and a doc they just can't contribute the same damage output as most other classes.

Most BH missions npc's aren't going to be dropping high-end Krayt loot or NS Queen loot. Yes they drop some armor, weapons, and crystals that are nice. They aren't comparable though. You also have to take into account the have to buy droids, they have to planet hop alot just to catch up with these mobs and sometimes is a bust. The mission could be broken, a mark will appear in a wall, etc.

Then there are those mobs that stick them with a nice bleed and in many cases it's game over. It's not a simple for them as it is for most classes. What do you do? You get a group together(or not) you get food, buffs, spice and you head to said mob and kill. They do the same exact thing with shit defenses, launch droid, planet hop, planet hop, kill or be killed.

Whats stopping everyone from doing this? Nothing. We simply aren't going to change every mob in the game to satisfy everyone and the same goes for their loot tables. Can we lower the percentage rate of the drops, sure. Then no one would have a reason to play BH other than to hunt Jedi. Life lesson, don't try to make sense of everything. You never will and will walk away with a headache on most occasions.

[Daihok]

Yea i dont know it just seems like the amount of attachments you get from BH missions is a little excessive VS hunting other things. Alot of times you get 2 attachments per kill. BH missions really arent that hard kiting things around. Yea the bleeds are rough but they pretty rough lots of other places as well and not getting 2 attachments off kills anywhere else that i have seen nor the 150k payouts. Yea i agree you should be rewarded on BH, they are a pain to level. I just think though maybe either The attachment drops should be increased other places to give little more insentive or lowered drops from BH missions. This is just all my opinion though. Im sure alot would disagree and be content with just doin BH missions.

[Cynar]

Yea i dont know it just seems like the amount of attachments you get from BH missions is a little excessive VS hunting other things. Alot of times you get 2 attachments per kill. BH missions really arent that hard kiting things around. Yea the bleeds are rough but they pretty rough lots of other places as well and not getting 2 attachments off kills anywhere else that i have seen nor the 150k payouts. Yea i agree you should be rewarded on BH, they are a pain to level. I just think though maybe either The attachment drops should be increased other places to give little more insentive or lowered drops from BH missions. This is just all my opinion though. Im sure alot would disagree and be content with just doin BH missions.

Oh i'm not disagreeing with you. We can tweak and turn down the drop rate. It won't be much though. Just a smidge, because like I said we want people to enjoy BH. The drop rates on the other mobs are staying the way they are. We aren't turning those up.

[Lyris]

BH loot is not epic by any stretch. You do get a steady supply of upper-mid range skill tapes and enough crystals to choke a kimo tho... Honestly, you prolly only get AA/CA around 60% of the time and you get 2 skill tapes on rare occasion.


Also, payouts are around 40-60k, You are confusing sliced BH missions with normal payouts.

[timex1]

It is a gamble on loot and a large time investment. Some days I will go 10-12 missions and only get 1 SEA. Some days I will get 1 per kill.

I think it is fine just the way it is.

[MisterNudd]

As a BH without sliced terms I say leave it alone. I have gone days with nothing but junk, and even in the past asked if there have been any changes to loot due to lack of drops!!

[EmwunGarand]

There is nothing wrong with the drop rate for BH. The grind to get there was annoying and expensive, and not every CA/AA you get is worth something. A ton of attachments in this game are broken in current form, utterly useless, or they take one or two other attachments to cancel out stats you don't want. I have a room in my house for storing crystals and it looks like a box of crayons exploded in there. As for the payout, you can make the same amount of money slicing regular terminals and doing Faamba's in the amount of time it takes to hunt down a high level bounty. I made 550k in one buff session on Faambas. If you have a defense stack melee profession, you can farm Krayts and sell tissues/pearls.

It's not broken, don't fix it.

[ShadowOrdo]

Could someone please explain to me this term "terminal slicing"? I did not play pre-cu sadly... I assume you use the smuggler skill tree slicing, but do you need said skill tree to access sliced mission? Or can a smuggler just come by and slice a term and people reap rewards... If so, how long does a terminal stay sliced?

[EmwunGarand]

Could someone please explain to me this term "terminal slicing"? I did not play pre-cu sadly... I assume you use the smuggler skill tree slicing, but do you need said skill tree to access sliced mission? Or can a smuggler just come by and slice a term and people reap rewards... If so, how long does a terminal stay sliced?

Smuggler x1xx I think, you need the first box of 'slicing' completed to slice a terminal.
Only the person who slices the terminal will see the higher rewards.
It lasts until you close that window with the 5 missions listed.
You can slice it again after waiting 2 minutes.

[ShadowOrdo]

Ah thank you for clarifying that! I think I will give this a shot, never tried slicing before.

- Razikale

[Anomaly]

Please let me know how to get epic loot almost every bounty?

I get perhaps 2-4 tapes per buff session.
usually lucky to get one that's usable!

WTS +15 rescue tapes. Cheaper by the dozen!

[QuorTek]

Believe it should be hardmode for all... but that is me.... the entire catch to BH is hunting Jedi anyway whenever it become a possibility that is.

[MisterNudd]

Believe it should be hardmode for all... but that is me.... the entire catch to BH is hunting Jedi anyway whenever it become a possibility that is.

Disagree, you can be a BH and never fight a Jedi if you wish, its called PVE.

[Cynar]

Believe it should be hardmode for all... but that is me.... the entire catch to BH is hunting Jedi anyway whenever it become a possibility that is.

Disagree, you can be a BH and never fight a Jedi if you wish, its called PVE.

Very true. Choice is up to the player.

[QuorTek]

Believe it should be hardmode for all... but that is me.... the entire catch to BH is hunting Jedi anyway whenever it become a possibility that is.

Disagree, you can be a BH and never fight a Jedi if you wish, its called PVE.

Hence the hardmode way of how this server is, would better if the drop rate would be more like 10 to 1 in a figure of speech putting SEAs and the likes as how it would be getting them off night sisters in general or something, but that is just my view upon it, of course the coin reward should be acceptable well having to track down the target with tracker droids and so on and so forth or require full BH to obtain that stuff, likewise with smuggler, believe you should be a master smuggler for being able to slice terminals to the full potential and maybe leave it at 10-20% untill mastery, otherwise it is to easy getting away with a potential good reward for a little grind without spending any actual skill points.

Likewise getting defence points and the likes out of other professions as well, make it cap like seas does it if any, +25 and no more and of course being able to 'buff up' extra with 25 points using seas as well.

Personally it would make sense to me, but of course we are of different in opinions.

Edited a typo.

[Anomaly]

Why would anyone grind to bh , one of the weakest profs...
spend tons on droids and fly all over hell for one mob every 20min, with the same loot chance as some schmuck tkm who can farm hundreds of NS all in one spot?

I just spent 3hrs today running bh missions.
got one tape.

You cannot seriously think that needs to be lowered.

[Daihok]

Yea i guess i may have just got lucky then when i was grinding out BH on my main. I ended with pack full of attachments. So yea i guess its prety random just didnt feel that way when i grinded it out i guess. It just seemed odd then to go and kill nightsisters and didnt see even one tape drop from a buff session. But yea i guess it is totally random was gonna go grind other spots tonight and see as well.

[Cynar]

I could have told you it was random. There are 1 in % chances involved with loot and mobs. The higher the loot end, the lower the drop percentage on certain mob types.