GALAXY WIDE CHAMPIONSHIP

[davej30]

Terrance, you are awesome but your ranting is more zzzzz to me. A team stacked full of Jedi does not = auto win. Skill does. I remember a fight in Naboo last month that the Rebels (Mostly LORE but not all, and some BH interference for good measure) beat us with their 2 Jedi, some stackers and CMs vs 4-5 of our Jedi because their composition was waaaaay stronger. Jedi are not OP inherently OP lol. I don't think you understand what I am getting at. Your gank squads could declare and join the GCW battles, or is that too hard? Or make some PVP toons and come play on them. You think I'm whining but despite this being a smack talk forum, I'm really just trying to encourage ways for more fun for more people. I think you could use a chill pill because you seem insecure about your bounty hunting. Even fishface understood exactly where I was coming from when we talked about the state of PVP in-game and shared the same opinions. Some of us just want more varieties of competition, more varieties of fun, and what's best for the pvp community on the server. When players who are looking for GCW action hear that there is some on Awakening, they will come play here The bigger picture too, my man.

This is my poke fun tournament,
but you want to discuss pvp/gcw,ill oblige you.
I get annoyed because its the same old statement from various players,its a spinning wheel.

Group A gets a bunch of jedi want to pvp.
Group B cannot compete get a bunch of jedi too.
Before jedi power battles can commence jedi get smashed by bh.
Group C wants to pvp but also realize they need jedi to compete.
Group A leaves as there is no pvp
Group B goes afk for a bit (aka another game with pvp)
Group C finally gets some jedi wohoo,finds there are no other jedi to pvp with,goes inactive or leaves.
Bh's keep on Bhing....

Group A,B or C usually has someone trying to "spark" pvp with their jedi through bullying and intimidation.
Said spokesperson cant work out why theses fabulous tactics dont work gets confused,tries more intimidation because that works so well????.
Rinse and repeat add a few minor changes here and there.

Its will be the same old process until someone actually learns.
I am bored of it,the definition of insanity is repeating the same process and hoping for a different result and then having the gall to complain that its not working.
So for the last time;

Dont use BH interactions to try and spark pvp,wont happen for numerous reasons.

Dont bring jedi to the party,it certainly wont get new players to join in,if pvp is made fun and easy to get into IT WILL HAPPEN.

Organize yourself,leave your ego at home and talk with your opposite faction and put something together,stick down two bases and make an event of it.

Try this for once and stop using jedi to bully and intimidate people into pvp,it doesn't work,i'm sick of saying it.
If not carry on with the same old tried and tested method that doesn't work.
It is your my friend who doesn't see the big picture,try it my way and i will turn up with my pvp combat toons,it may save a baby jedis life

[keylorn]

Ok, since you are patronizing my good intentions then it's time for the smack talk. If you (or your crew) can't beat Jedi in regular pvp, then get good when you unlock Ursa like you are trying to do I'll show you how to beat Jedi on my non-Jedi character, mmkay?

Jedi is not OP, and easy to counter with any effort and coordination. It does take practice and skill which can't be learned on a smack talk forum.

Also I shouldn't have to coordinate with the opposite faction to get PvP action. LORE will just show up and attack our city and that's how it should be. Grow a pair and join the GCW. We don't need to hold hands and set up play dates. Drop some bases and I'll come blow them up. I dare you to come try to attack ours. Something tells me you guys won't.

[davej30]

I don't actually think you read anything i said lol
In your post you just did everything i told you not to do as it doesn't work lol

[Drakathos]

The ways to counter a jedi are quite limited and hard to organize outside of BH vs. Jedi

1. Stacker can go toe to toe with a jedi but wont be able to kill one without a great fire dot weapon.
2. CM can do alot of damage to a jedi but is really squishy. (I have made alot of jedi run on my CM, but the killing part is hard due to the amount of block)
3. Squad Leader can help with dizzy removal and constant burst run but once he is spotted its game over for him.
4. Commando flame dot also hurts but the accuracy and range make it hard to use.
5. Faction NPC:s can help also but are quite squishy so would need luck to get it done.
6. Smuggler or a BH could possibly use a bomb droid to turn the tide.

In essence a group consisting of Squad Leader, Stacker and a CM would be able to counter a jedi that does not have total heal or a jedi without fr2 but mdef would not go down.

None of my normal pvp geared toons could 1v1 my Jedi, I could take my jedi down using all my 3 pvp geared normal toons (maybe).

If there is a group 2-3 jedi that know what they are doing it would take humongous amount of effort for a group of normal toons to take em down.

[Brianklein33]

I have always kept quiet in these kind of threads, as I feel they are silly. However, if they spark some rivalry/ PvP let's dance.

- Play what you want. If you keep losing, adapt, practice, get better, learn from others, learn the secrets of food, farm good weapons and basically perfect your profession and play style.
- Everything has weakness, utilize the tools of the game. BH are Jedi's weakness and as Keylorn said earlier in this post or another I do not remember, 2 LORE Jedi (Awesome guys btw) and a couple well timed BH attacks nearly took out a pretty strong Imperial gank squad in Theed a few weeks ago iirc.
- As jedi we cannot expect good/ fair fights. We are not fighting for honor here, we are fighting for life and death. So how can we blame them if they come 4 or 5 deep. Adapt!
- As a BH when you come 4 or 5 deep when 2 decent BHs can nearly 2 shot some of the squishier jedi, don't get mad when they run or log in water. Be smart! If the jedi is a known runner, change your strategy, utilize the element of surprise (it works ask Narrk and Rydan lol.)

Not trying to derail the topic, just my two cents on the 4+ BH water logging thing.


Also, no hard feelings to any BHs, love you guys, you all play a part that makes this the best game. Keep it up!

[Celt]

Knowing full well you probably won't read any of this, I am going to fire a shot across the bow anyway.

Ok, since you are patronizing my good intentions then it's time for the smack talk. If you (or your crew) can't beat Jedi in regular pvp, then get good when you unlock Ursa like you are trying to do I'll show you how to beat Jedi on my non-Jedi character, mmkay?

I will tell you the same thing I have told Josef, Idah, SiFu and any of the others who unlocked and decide that makes them a "pvper". If Jedi are so easy to kill, and any good BH can do it, then why don't you pick up your LLC, meet us in Kadaara and show us how it's done? Who knows we may even let your spy back in the guild. If you actually hunted Jedi that is.

Also I shouldn't have to coordinate with the opposite faction to get PvP action.

Says who? You do understand you are playing a game more than a decade old with a fraction of the active population any of the live servers had, right? If you want pvp to simply appear and come to you without work and coordination, let me help you....this isn't the game for you.

Grow a pair and join the GCW.

Sure, as soon as you grow a pair and quit running when we come a calling, fair enough? All bullshit aside, we have joined the GCW. Most of us have multiple pvp toons (you have been mopped up by some of them:)). We just keep them under our hat. Bounty Hunter alts pay for the sins of their father, so to speak. Advertising our alts isn't really a good idea.

I dare you to come try to attack ours. Something tells me you guys won't.

On our hunters? Of course not. Forgive us for being logical, but hunting you is difficult enough with the waterlogging, house hiding and group healing. We don't want to have to fight all of your friends too. For a guy who seems to be somewhat intelligent you sure don't seem to think about these things logically.

[keylorn]

I will tell you the same thing I have told Josef, Idah, SiFu and any of the others who unlocked and decide that makes them a "pvper". If Jedi are so easy to kill, and any good BH can do it, then why don't you pick up your LLC, meet us in Kadaara and show us how it's done? Who knows we may even let your spy back in the guild. If you actually hunted Jedi that is.

zzzzz keep typing. I've been a "pvper" since beating up on your FoE crew on Bria 10 years ago son. Comparing me to Josef, Idah, and especially SiFu was a nice insult though I will give you that (edit: although, one of them was a better pvp'er than any of you) But this is not my first go at playing this class and am not too shy to say that there are maybe 1-2 other Jedi on the server who know the class like I do.

Says who? You do understand you are playing a game more than a decade old with a fraction of the active population any of the live servers had, right? If you want pvp to simply appear and come to you without work and coordination, let me help you....this isn't the game for you.

Says me. Spontaneous PVP works and is fun. Why would you say it can't work when you don't even do it? Ask Dunka how many times LORE has come to our base in the last few weeks, destroyed turrets, and made me scramble to Facebook to get our people online to defend. It works. You wouldn't know because you don't try it.

On our hunters? Of course not. Forgive us for being logical, but hunting you is difficult enough with the waterlogging, house hiding and group healing. We don't want to have to fight all of your friends too. For a guy who seems to be somewhat intelligent you sure don't seem to think about these things logically.

You keep talking about water logging. This happened once, almost twice, but really only once. Do you take into account that I was fighting 2v1s last week while I was mid-template change, and dying for -700k xp each time setting me back on my grind, because I do not run from those kinds of fights regardless if I have a template or not? If you are going to have 5 dots on my screen like your homies did in Diarmid, then fuck them. The second time I logged off in the water was because I *thought* it was about to be a 5 dot situation again as I was about to kill Stratas, and when I was sure it was just 2 of them I logged back on, got to land, and fought it out. Or Narrk and Daxo in Mon Cala a couple days ago, where I got beat again? I have a lot of practice to do for the new template

House hiding? I don't even go in my houses you dumb shit. Crying about healing? Maybe they should take heals out of the game to make it easier for you, or better yet just leave Medic in the game for BH only.

If "BH are bound by no code to fight honorably", why are Jedi obligated to stand still and get gang raped by 5 BH if they do not choose to play the template with the master skill which lets them press a button and stay alive for 5-10 minutes straight? Nah, I think I am obligated to use the skill that I've invested points into that might allow me to escape death altogether in a situation that is impossible to win. It is not the same thing as running from a 1v1, 2v1, or even *certain* 3v1 situations.

Hypocrisy = BH can do whatever it takes to get their kills while Jedi should not use skills they've invested points into to escape unwinnable fights. Lets put an end to that idiotic, one sided school of thought. I've been saying it to whiners on both sides forever now. Jedi need to not cry about traps or fast blast and BH need to not cry about forcerun, group heals, whatever else. It's all fair game.

[davej30]

You keep talking about water logging. This happened once, almost twice, but really only once.

Not so you done it about numerous times 10-15ish hard to keep count,only these last few weeks since everyone else does it now you dont do it,at least madrox never lied about it.
You where the reason i sent a ticket in, never do i like to name people on my tickets but might as well say you where the reason for it.
Staying in water, logging in and out to shake tef so you couldnt take damage,eventually after 10mins sooner or later we would break it and kill you.
we had this little game at least 4 nights running consecutively and then sporadic instances after that.
I remember it,so does celt,fishface and rydan.
Its funny you don't remember this occurring at all
Thats why we joke about in guildchat and call you keyLOG
Also i may add one particular day when you was doing this "fun new tactic" you invented i think it was me, rydan and fishface where present then tsavo turned up and fried you in the water with that insane flamethrower,too late for you to log out and shake tef because it 2 shotted you!!
You had the option of using force run (its valid and nothing wrong with it)to escape the bh tef but everytime you chose not to.
You spent that time period waiting for us daily at new destiny so often that as soon as we arrived we would get the mounts out in advance so we could play lets see if we can kill keylorn in the water.
Why did you do this? to spark pvp?
No you did it to antagonise us,we all knew exactly what was going to happen everyday,and you set things up so this little merry go round could occur by deliberately waiting for us everytime.

So now its all regretfully out in the open,tell me why you log out in combat? why do you set things up so you can do it on a regular basis? Why do other members of your guild now do it not in water?
Is it because you feel as a jedi that you shouldn't have 3v1,we gave you the 2v1s that you asked for and you didn't like those either?
But of course this never happened,you don't combat log and you certainly don't die.
You also didn't spend two hours trying to convince fishface about that awful death where he virtually soloed you because you was changing template.
So what?
what does it matter why is it such a big deal to you,you know its a game right?
I fully admit when i get chopped to pieces,theres no shame in it,i have a good laugh about my own demises and for you xp loss shouldn't be a factor anymore
Why doesn't xman,packers,dunka and a whole other bunch of jedi not combat log?

I made this tournament to poke fun at you lot because its a joke,it really is.
Devs say its legit,but we both know what your doing is wrong.
You cant be taken seriously as a PvPer because you chose to roll a jedi to pvp with and wont accept what happens with the class.
What you fail to grasp is this,on this server every jedi dies,not if but when.
That's how its set up here,you obviously have taken exception to this.
If this tournament was set when you first started practicing this you would be in excess of 1000s of points by now.

For the life of me i cant understand why you lie and rewrite history like you do,the only thing i've got left is,its an ego problem.
But you can carry on as you will,and i will just keep making jokes about it.
Its no problem to me i don't claim i'm a great pvper i'm just a guy that likes to bounty hunt.

[keylorn]

You keep talking about water logging. This happened once, almost twice, but really only once.

Not so you done it about numerous times 10-15ish hard to keep count

LOL. Keep dreaming bruh. Even the couple times I used water to get away (not log) with 4-6 of you guys on me, you didn't kill me. Tsavo did that time in Destiny that you were talking about. I think we laughed about how you couldn't with 5-6.

10-15 times haha, that is way too funny. I am an honest guy. 2-3 times ever, with the most recent vs Narrk and Stratas/Rydan not counting because after I was satisfied that it wasn't a 5 person squad like earlier I came back on and fought with less than ideal conditions. I didn't have to fight at all, and I waited for them to catch up to me cause that's how I roll.

Fishface has never come close to solo'ing me and never could. I suppose that same rumor is how the 10-15 water logs one got started. I will 1v1 him where loser deletes their character. Oh wait I offered that when he was talking shit and he said no even though he could keep his gear and re-grind a BH in a couple days whereas I have a year into my Jedi. Derp.

I'm aware this thread is a joke. But that is besides the point. What derailed this thread had nothing to do with the original post. It had to do with me suggesting we get more GCW pvp going because it would be fun for everyone, and you guys keep crying about Jedi running or healing or whatever other shit you are going on about, and for some reason you keep wanting to talk about me

For the life of me i cant understand why you lie and rewrite history like you do,the only thing i've got left is,its an ego problem.

[tnick]

[davej30]

LOL. Keep dreaming bruh. Even the couple times I used water to get away (not log) with 4-6 of you guys on me, you didn't kill me. Tsavo did that time in Destiny that you were talking about. I think we laughed about how you couldn't with 5-6.

Im not dreaming how big you think the BH guild is? your lucky that once in a while we have 4 members on at the same time,maybe christmas you might see 5,what you get as standard is around 3 from our guild

10-15 times haha, that is way too funny. I am an honest guy. 2-3 times ever, with the most recent vs Narrk and Stratas/Rydan not counting because after I was satisfied that it wasn't a 5 person squad like earlier I came back on and fought with less than ideal conditions. I didn't have to fight at all, and I waited for them to catch up to me cause that's how I roll.

No, this is how you roll
Notice if you will, this wasn't in water as we cant fastblast in water.


dont take my word for it awakening forums seem to share the same opinion too

Fishface has never come close to solo'ing me and never could. I suppose that same rumor is how the 10-15 water logs one got started. I will 1v1 him where loser deletes their character. Oh wait I offered that when he was talking shit and he said no even though he could keep his gear and re-grind a BH in a couple days whereas I have a year into my Jedi. Derp.

Starting to sound like Idah here bud lol

I'm aware this thread is a joke. But that is besides the point. What derailed this thread had nothing to do with the original post. It had to do with me suggesting we get more GCW pvp going because it would be fun for everyone, and you guys keep crying about Jedi running or healing or whatever other shit you are going on about, and for some reason you keep wanting to talk about me

Prove me wrong,prove that you dont combat log when it looks like your about to lose.
when you prove me wrong i will be more then happy

[Celt]

No, this is how you roll
Notice if you will, this wasn't in water as we cant fastblast in water.

[tnick]

No, this is how you roll
Notice if you will, this wasn't in water as we cant fastblast in water.

[Deezee32]

Would we be able to see a return of <kk> by any chance in the near future ?

[davej30]

No, this is how you roll
Notice if you will, this wasn't in water as we cant fastblast in water.

[tnick]

Would we be able to see a return of <kk> by any chance in the near future ?

[Celt]

am talking frog, can confirm

[keylorn]

You posted a combat log of me getting fast blasted to death that is clearly not anywhere near water..after going on about using water? What was the point there? Okay then.

Also, I challenge you to post the unedited screenshot to see how many people are in your group No bitterness, I just think it would be enlightening given that you are using it to talk trash

Your meme game is weak. But your forum warrior cheerleader who doesn't even play anymore game is strong.

[tnick]

Your meme game is weak. But your forum warrior cheerleader who doesn't even play anymore game is strong.

Who are you talking about? Surely not me. I am no one's cheerleader. I hate everyone equally.

[davej30]

No the point is to expose you for your lies,you obviously have issues about bh interactions.
you dont like them,you dont like xp loss and you dont like dying.
Dont be a jedi on awakening,you know what happens but your ego cannot stand for it.
You're trying to force it into regular pvp,which it isn't.
You want a 1v1 vs bh so you can win plain and simple,the interaction isnt supposed to work like that,it can and does but its not the standard.
you dont like any of this because you live a fantasy life about being a self professed elite pvper.
And it is a fantasy no matter your justifications if its not going your way you just /logout or use a softlog macro.
That is NOT the mark of an elite pvper.

I dont dislike you,but you are a joke,you cannot be taken seriously because of these stunts you pull and now have others follow suit.
Who is going to pvp against you when you are known for lying and pulling the plug when it suits you?
where is the glory you so crave when you disconect or is this only reserved for BH encounters?
Bounty hunters dont do it for the glory,we do it for the money and a whole host of other reasons.
We gave you 2v1s and you didnt like those either and weaseled you way out of it by turning it into pvp or using a doc to heal a fire dot and from what my fellow hunters told me you logout in combat on 2v1s as well.

So we have tried to work with you,give ground,find workarounds to attempt to satisfy you but still you log in combat but deny doing it.

So i ridicule you for doing so,here in the forums for your actions,thats the point get it yet?

What you need to do is petition Ed and co to have BH removed or nerfed,because its getting in the way of your jedi power battles.
So what you can do is to carry on logging out in combat and killing oppsite faction jedi to deny bh kills until the devs grant you your fondish wish and remove bh from the game.